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Champions and Heroes: Unisex clothing by Ddriana Champions and Heroes: Unisex clothing by Ddriana
Here's a tip, game developers: Few things make women feel less welcome in the gaming community as unnecessary sexualisation of female characters (especially player characters).
I want to be able (but not forced) to flirt and ho through a game, it's true, but if I'm an agent of the Empire and NOT undercover as a stripper there is no reason why you should make my clothes stripperific. There's been quite a few armors that I refused to use because flaunting my stomach is NOT professional. You know. If you're an imperial agent. I'm sure it's very professional for working ladies in the Republic. But you know how THEY are...

That being said. I took a long break from Star Wars: the old republic. I got stuck on the final battle and I took great offense. But I miss Sha, and the chiss, and the frustration that I never got to seduce Chance to the Empire's side. So I have since bought another month of play and gotten past that and finished the agent's story. Ending is rather underwhelming, but the story overall is great.


Champions and Heroes is a collaboration with Sullivan's player :iconclueedo: and can also be found here championsandheroes.smackjeeves… and on tumblr championsandheroes.tumblr.com/

Star Wars the Old Republic is Bioware and Lucas arts and... etc etc
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:iconmandogirl22:
MandoGirl22 Featured By Owner Dec 16, 2014  Hobbyist Writer
I never understood the need for a piece armor...doesn't provide protection at all
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Ddriana Featured By Owner Jan 1, 2015
It is dumb and people who design them should feel dumb :I
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MandoGirl22 Featured By Owner Jan 1, 2015  Hobbyist Writer
Do they even watch the movies? No one is running in a two piece armor, killing people....not including Princess Leia, she had no choice in the manner
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Ddriana Featured By Owner Jan 11, 2015
Well, Padme is kind of forced to in the arena, with the oh so convenient cut of her clothes. But yeah... On the other hand, the movies have barely any women so...
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MandoGirl22 Featured By Owner Jan 11, 2015  Hobbyist Writer
That is true, I rarely saw any women in the movies
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SilverSource Featured By Owner Sep 7, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
Nice comic!
I totally agree about the clothes, I'm trying to get my Marauder some nice armor, but it keeps changing to a top!
I didn't finish the agent story (I'm on Voss) but I found out about Hunter..Dramatic closeup 4  and that kind of ruined it for me...
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Ddriana Featured By Owner Sep 19, 2014
Ah, spoilers suck :/ I managed to get through the story mainly unspoiled, but I sort of had... a false spoiler? It kind of ruined things quite a bit for me, and then it wasn't even true and... meh. 
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Herokiller12344 Featured By Owner Jan 8, 2014
Yeah, I can agree with that.
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NorthrendComics Featured By Owner Nov 8, 2013
Aaaaah, mmo's. Such silly silly games.
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GwDuncan Featured By Owner Oct 2, 2013
LOL Jedi Garment are sexists
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Zoe-the-Pink-Ranger Featured By Owner Jul 27, 2013
There's at least one "armour" set (available through cartel packs or the GTN) that goes the opposite way.
Put it on a male character (i.e. Torian), they have a sexy bare torso. Put it on a female character, and suddenly there's extra fabric to conceal the breasts... because of the double standard on bare chests of course :shrug:
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Ddriana Featured By Owner Jul 27, 2013

Well, I wouldn't personally consider that truly equivalent. It's more an 'armor' set that is equally ridiculous and likely more at home at the beach than in a fight, rather than one fully clothed and one sexualized :/

All I want is armor that protects and protects equally regardless of presence of breasts or not, for the sake of immersion and logic TAT

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Zoe-the-Pink-Ranger Featured By Owner Jul 28, 2013
Indeed. It might fit for Force Users because they have lightsabres to deflect incoming fire, but for the normal people in the Star Wars universe, it is indeed rather stupid... female version strikes me as more clubbing gear than beach gear, but still not appropriate battle gear for troopers, agents, or hunters. Smugglers don't usually go looking for trouble so they can sort of get away with dressing to distract.

Black Talon chest piece for Bounty Hunters is my favourite. Looks cool, protects well, doesn't sexualise, and best of all, it can be modified. Threlis wore it all the way from level 11 to level 55, and she's never taking it off. I just love the white and blue colour scheme on it.
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donobowk Featured By Owner Apr 25, 2013
ah yes one of my better pieces of armor had a mid riff, I decided to just upgrade the robes I got earlier and wear them again.
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Ddriana Featured By Owner May 1, 2013
Yeeeeah... I've had a few of those moments too. Dignity > stats :I
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EternoAprendiz Featured By Owner Oct 30, 2012
So very true. All women should have the option to use Aveline's armor.
Also, it's NOT COOL to NOT be able to choose your companions armors in DAII.
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Ddriana Featured By Owner Nov 1, 2012
Yeah, Aveline's armor... hell, Aveline overall, is just... glorious and a joy to have in your game.

Well, I'd be alright with the design not changing, but damnit, I have all these fantastic shoes for mages and I'm a rogue! SOMEONE WEAR THEM D<
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BinkuMuja Featured By Owner Aug 11, 2013
I'm somewhat curious, if you enjoyed Aveline's outfit and level headedness, what did you think about Isabella who was her polar opposite?
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Ddriana Featured By Owner Aug 11, 2013

Well, to avoid misunderstandings, when I say I enjoy Aveline's outfit, I mean her later guard armor, not her starting gear which is a bit... too cleavage-y for me to consider it reasonable armor. Protecting the heart and whatnot seems kind of like an important part of armor's purpose to me.

As for Isabela, I... don't like her, I'm sad to say :I She's too selfish to appeal to me, and I found the whole tome of Koslun thing disrespectful and unacceptable.

Additionally, I'm crap at leveling her so I can hardly bring her along anywhere because she dies on me constantly. I've been planning to do a playthrough and romance her though, to get to know her better, hoping that there's something there that can sort of level the above mentioned issues out for me. I'm just a bit tired of DA2, and have been for a while, so it's not happening any time soon. Besides, the Steam sale left me with a bunch of new games and a hurting wallet.

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BinkuMuja Featured By Owner Sep 6, 2013
A wallet in pain...but good news! Moar games!!

I liked the potential for Izzi being a wing-woman, but not so much a love interest. The humor was good, but the selfishness is really disconcerting. What doesn't help is the fact that she should've told you up front what she was looking for so that you could help find it (and possibly betray her by handing it over to the qunari anyway) or just straight up kill the guys who were after her. Plenty of simple options that could've resolved the issue faster, but ohhh no, we can't have that can we?

The oversexed man eater approach really put me off her as well. Having fun is all good, but she was taken to the extreme for the sake of a trope. Even her romanced outfit looks even more ridiculous than her normal one. She get's a black corset.
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Ddriana Featured By Owner Sep 15, 2013

Oh I agree. It's frustrating to see how much more easily it could have been solved, if people just talked to you about it. The tome of Koslun is an excellent example, both from Isabela and the Arishok. Hawke could have helped tracking it down, offing the people after Isabela and handed it over to the Arishok, anonymously if necessary. But no... nono... we need to turn Kirkwall upside down... :iconohgodwhyplz:

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BinkuMuja Featured By Owner Jan 4, 2014
I think a lot of the drama in DA2 could've been averted just by sitting down and talking it out. But Bioware needed a way to set off events in DAI by setting the two warring factions at odds.

My negativity towards Anders' actions at the end weren't so much that he blew up the Chantry so much as it was him doing it. He kept making ominous comments about the few remaining rebels in his resistance getting desperate, yet we see precisely jack and shit of this to back him up. If it had been them that set the bomb off it would've paid off Anders' cryptic ramblings. Or even have a scene about them needling Anders and pushing his already unstable mentality even further over the edge.

I'd argue that Anders was a coward who targeted the defenseless (chantry priests) instead of the Templars directly (their barracks) in order to make a point that fell flat and made things worse for mages.

Kudryavka Noumi (Depressed) [V2] 
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Ddriana Featured By Owner Jan 12, 2014
True, but... but... people! Can we not be a little bit reasonable? D:

I personally think that it has more of an effect that it's your own companion that does the deed, really. But yes, he ought to have gone for the templars directly, rather than the chantry sisters. Ho hum.
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randomman95 Featured By Owner Jul 22, 2012
One of the reasons I prefer Ashley over Miranda in Mass Effect, is because Ashley actually wears body armour. Miranda goes in a swimsuit :/
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Ddriana Featured By Owner Jul 22, 2012
I certainly prefer Ashley's outfit in ME1 and ME2 over Miranda's catsuit. Though I really, really don't like her hair in ME3. The woman is a soldier, and her hair is loose? Death wish :I
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randomman95 Featured By Owner Jul 22, 2012
Damn straight. Whenever I play as a female Shepard, I always have her with either a ponytail or a buzzcut. Ponytails for Paragons and buzzcuts for badass Renegades :D
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Ddriana Featured By Owner Aug 2, 2012
Haha, I have a stern hairbun or a ponytail, but I will admit that a buzzcut makes the most sense.
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Valky24 Featured By Owner Jul 18, 2012
Hmm, I've never really noticed that. To me, two of the prettiest, funniest, most adorable and 'good-looking' girls from Bioware are Merrill and Tali. One doesn't show much skin by choice, Merrill. And the other can't, Tali, she has to wear a full-sealed body suit, zero skin visible. And yeah, I switched Miranda out of her white Cerberus suit as soon as I get a chance, really don't like it >:P Even though I'm a guy, I also enjoy the 'realistic' and functional suits, armour, clothes, ect.

Pfft, don't even get me started on the 'sexy armour' mods on Skyrim :P
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Ddriana Featured By Owner Jul 20, 2012
There's one clear advantage to putting Miranda into that black armor with sensible shoes, aside from believability - suddenly the constant ass shots aren't so blatantly sexual. Hooray!
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EOrr321 Featured By Owner Jul 18, 2012
Lucas is a misogynist plain and simple.............
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Ddriana Featured By Owner Jul 20, 2012
I don't know what you mean, he has so many women with proper characters in his mov- oh wait, that's right. He doesn't :I
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EOrr321 Featured By Owner Jul 20, 2012
see what i mean he could give Dan Didio a run for his money.
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AcoreaGray Featured By Owner Jul 17, 2012
YES! Thank you, why doesn't any of the armor have cut out mid riffs for the males, I would love to see that. Gear should look the same on both genders, its just so misleading when you see cool armor but it looks completely different on your toon because you're a female a character.
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Ddriana Featured By Owner Jul 18, 2012
Agreed :I
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unseenbeauty46 Featured By Owner Jul 16, 2012
I agree with what you are saying. As a person who plays on an rp server even though my character is a flirt at times doesn't meant she should dress like one ALL the time! I play as both a smuggler and an agent, I could see the smuggler (at times) wearing the more 'flashy' clothing than the agent.
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Ddriana Featured By Owner Jul 17, 2012
Well, that's the thing, I'm ok with it if it's armor you have to buy (like the slave gear) and available for both genders (unlike the slave gear...). When it's loot you end up having to pick between better armor or dignity -.-
And yes, I can certainly see a smuggler more ok with randomly walking around in questionable gear, but the agent... no. Not unless they're undercover.
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BuildMyPaperHeart Featured By Owner Jul 16, 2012  Hobbyist Artisan Crafter
I'm not sure if you've seen this or if it's been mentioned already, but this is extremely relevant. [link]

Also, I totally agree with you. The coolest female armors are the ones that are stylish AND functional. Armor should protect you and look cool regardless of gender, and not have embellishments for the sake of the female form (I'm looking at you, Diablo 3 Demon Hunter with your high heeled armor boots. Are you serious? How can you walk, let alone fight, in those?!?) (Also glaring at you, DC Comics and superheroes in general: Supergirl, there's no reason for there to be a cutout for your cleavage on your costume).
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Ddriana Featured By Owner Jul 17, 2012
I had not seen that, but I like it XD

Yeah... it is a common problem, because the creators care more for titillation than reason and dignity. Whenever I get Miranda's loyalty in Mass Effect, she gets put in proper armor with sensible shoes, Jack gets a shirt, and... then I am annoyed that the only thing I can do about Samara's getup is change its color -.- Cleaveage of doom, high heels, and what looks like a mighty wedgie in the making. Fantastic armor there, lady.
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deathstrikesquirrel Featured By Owner Jul 16, 2012
Why is he dressed when he takes it off, but she isn't. BIOWARE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Ddriana Featured By Owner Jul 16, 2012
Haha, I thought of it as him changing his clothes, all nice and calm, and she, in the horror of the moment, just tearing it off to be free of the evidently cursed object XD
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deathstrikesquirrel Featured By Owner Jul 17, 2012
At least that hasn't happened with Mass Effect...yet
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Ddriana Featured By Owner Jul 18, 2012
Well, not for Shepard, but let's not forget Miranda, Jack and Samara here... The moment I get their loyalty Miranda gets armor with sensible shoes, Jack gets a shirt, and then I sit and glare at the screen because all I can do for Samara is change the color of her outfit :I
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deathstrikesquirrel Featured By Owner Jul 18, 2012
I thought the armor was only in the Alternate pack.
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Ddriana Featured By Owner Jul 19, 2012
I've got most DLCs for ME2. It is a blessing. Miranda looks like she's actually going to go out and fight :O
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deathstrikesquirrel Featured By Owner Jul 19, 2012
Though I loved the Mercenary's comment in her loyalty mission, would that still trigger with her alternate armor?
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Ddriana Featured By Owner Jul 20, 2012
Hrm, I don't think the game allows you to change their clothes until you have their loyalty though, so that comment would always be valid.
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ShibaNaganori Featured By Owner Jul 16, 2012
I never did like seeing skimpy armor/clothing on a civilized character. I do think that these things would have to depend on what groups. Like the Forsworn from Skyrim, distracting armor for both genders.
And no, not even Republic women would enjoy wearing them, let's just say that I gave a unisex robe to Kira, and well, there's a reason why you don't want to piss off a redhead with a double bladed lightsaber.
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Ddriana Featured By Owner Jul 16, 2012
I'm personally not keen on skimpy armor... ever. If it's armor, it's there to protect you and prevent your insides from becoming outsides.
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ShibaNaganori Featured By Owner Jul 16, 2012
Very true, but the unfortunate truth is that armor coverage is like armor quality, it shows how wealthy the wearer is and realistically it's not likely that poor warriors would have the money for full coverage. But overall I think RPGs (and the creators of Red Sonja) have it wrong, I think that if coverage were to be sacrificed, they'd sacrifice the arm and the leg coverage rather than stomach and cleavage.
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Ddriana Featured By Owner Jul 16, 2012
True, but RPGs and the like don't take the economics aspect into account. As you say, it is clearly a better choice to protect the heart and the stomach than your arms. Of course, arms aren't nearly as titillating so suddenly the character needs neither brains nor dignity... and probably not life either :I
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